Decisions and Discussions : National Anomaly Committee Meeting held on 17.7.2012
Decisions and Discussions : National Anomaly Committee Meeting held on 17.7.2012
Highlights of discussions in the National Anomaly Committee Meeting held on 17th July, 2012
NFIR General Secretary Shri.Raghavaiah JCM Staff Side Leader, published the outcome of discussion on some important issues on its website.
1. Special Allowance and Qualification Pay : The demand for taking special allowance and qualification pay for fixation prupose on promotion w.e.f.1.1.2006 is agreed to be considered and finalized within one month.
2. Rule 8 of Revised Pay Rules : It was agreed that taking into considereation, Recruitment Rules the Senior promotee's pay will be allowed to be fixed at the same stage (especially at the minimum of pay) thus the seniors will get the entry stage pay fixed for direct recruits.
3. Transport Allowance : Since CCA got subsumed in the Transport Allowance resulting denial of Overtime, action will be taken to review this particular aspects to mitigate the hardship.
4. Revision of Existing Allowance : Agreed to process the dobling the allowances (Hospital Patient Care Allowance etc.) Cabinet's approval will be sought. Target date for finalization is one month.
5. Commutation of additional Pension or Revision of pension in respect of post 31.12.2005 retirees : Department of Pension to make calculation for knowing the difference of amount between pre1.1.2006 and post 1.1.2006. Thereafter a view will be taken.
6. Commutation of Revised Pension : Will be examined further. Copy of Supreme Court Judgement will be given to Staff Side.
7. Revision of Base Index for Dearness allowance : Calculation sheet will be sent to Staff Side for comments.
8. Fixation of pay on promotion (shouldering higher responsibility) to a post carrying same Grade pay : Agreed to grant additional increment erstwhile FR-22-C.
9. Anomaly in the Pay Scale, Pay Band and Grade Pay - Library Information Assistant : Will be referred to Department of Culture for comments for considering allotment of Grade Pay of Rs.4600/- in PB-2.
10. MACP Anomalies : Secretary (Personnel) while appreciating the points raised by Staff Side has decided that a separte meeting will be held shortly (tentative date 27th July, 2012).
11. 15 Years Period fixed for Commutation is Arbitrary/unjustified : Official Side stated that the issue will be examined further.
12. Anomalies in the Pay Scale of Official Language Staff - Grant of parity to Rajbhasha Sahayaks : Railway Ministry's proposal for granting parity is under active consideration Favourale decision is expected.
13. Grant of parity in the case of Indian Railways Stenographers : Staff Side insisted that int he light of Cabinet's approval for granting parity, the Railway Ministry should issue orders without referring to Minisry of Finance. It was however stated by the Official Side that this being a common category, Ministry of Finance will have to be approached by Railway Ministry. After discussion it was agreed to expedite decision.
14. Eleven additional Items given by Staff Side in the last meeting will be proritized for further examination ad discussion.
15. Replacement of Grade Pay of Rs.4600/- with Rs.4800/- in the Railways : Official Side stated that Railway Ministry's proposal will be considered and a decision given.
16. Transport Allowance at Delhi for employees fo Faridabad, Gurgaon, Ghaziabad and Noida : After discussion it was agreed to consider positively. Staff Side also pointed out that HRA at Delhi rates are already paid to staff and hence Transport Allowance at Delhi rates should be allowed.
17. Grant of another option to the employees promoted in between 1.1.2006 and 2010 : Staff Side pointed out that the Field staff who were promoted after 1.1.2006 were unaware of the advantage of option as they were in the 5th CPC Pay Structure till the implementation of 6th CPC Revised Pay Structure and hence another option should be granted in such situation. After lengthy discussion, Secretary (Personnel) has agreed that thre is hardship involved and assured to decide favourably.
Shri. M.Raghavaiah, JCM Staff Side leader, Guman Singh, NFIR President and R.P.Bhatnagar, Working President, NFIR have participated in the meeting.
Comments
Reference is made to Anamoly Committee Meeeting held on 17 Jul 12.
1. It is requested that the Armed Forces Librarians under Ministry of Defence (Senior Library Information Assistants) are the higher than the Librarians, Library Information Assistants who are employed in other Ministries.
2. The Senior Library Information Assistants’s minimum required education qualifications are MA/MSc/ with BLSIc and MLISc is desirable.
3. You are requested to not to compare the Junior with Senior, fix the suitable pay fixation and do the justice accordingly.
Ashok Sharma
What about item no 40 i.e. Serving and retired employees in June each year are not given last increment, after completing 12 months service in June. Please let us know the date of next ANOMALY COMMITTEE MEETING. We are waiting for a favorable decision in this matter.
Please let us know the decision taken about agenda item No. 39 and 40.
Promotional Hierarchy for the purpose of MACP upgradation was expected to settle in this meeting...
Still matter of ten days waiting...ok
lets see what will happened..!
You have not mentioned that what decision taken regarding Agenda point/Demand No 40. Our Association had already requested to you previously for the same. Please let us know the next date of Meeting.
1. POBORs in Defence services were eligible for pension @ 70% of their basic pay till Vth pay commission, But in 6th CPC it was made 50% of (pay in band+grade pay+MSP+Gp X Pay).
2. Grade pay of Gp. X Aircraft Technician Sergeant in IAF should be 4200/- instead of 2800/- to make it at par with civil counterparts.
3. If OROP is implemented all the groups (X, Y and Z) with same service length will be eligible for same pension. This issue should be looked into.
i)EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE JOINED SERVICE BETWEEN JAN& JUNE IN 2006 &ONWARDS THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN ONE EXTRA INCREMENT IN THE PRE REVISED SCALE BECAUSE THEIR FIRST INCREMENT HAS BEEN GIVEN AFTER 12 MONTHS HAVE BEEN PASSED BECAUSE AS PER 6TH CPC IN CENTRAL CIVIL SERVICES REVISED PAY RULE10 OF THE CCS(RP) RULE ,2008 THERE WILL BE UNIFORM DATE OF ANNUAL INCREMENT ON JULY EVERY YEAR.THIS ANOMALY MUST BE SOLVED FORTHWITH.SUPPOSE ONE EMPLOYEE JOINED HIS SERVICE ON APRIL,2006.HE SHOULD GET HIS FIRST INCREMENT AFTER 1 YEAR,i.e. ON APRIL,2007.BUT AS PER 6TH CPC HE/SHE WILL GET IT ON JULY,2007i.e,increment has been delayed by 3months.SAME THING WILL BE HAPPENED FOR 2007,2008,2009,2010 AND SO ALSO.
ii)AS THE PREREVISED PAY OF 5000-8000,5500-9000,6500-10500 HAVE BEEN MERGED WITH 6500 SCALE THE MINIMUM BASIC PAY SHOULD BE MERGED WITH 6500 SCALE AND THE FITMENT SHOULD BE 6500X1.86=12090. SIDDHARTHA BHOWMIK,CHAIRMAN,AIANGOS,MSF BRANCH,ICHAPUR,WEST BENGAL,MINISTRY OF DEFENCE,INDIAN ORDNANCE FACTORIES.
SM Kushwaha
POINT NO 4.-THE PAY BAND FOR NEW RECRUTS OF RS 4200 IS 9300 & RS 4600 IS 12540.THE DIFFERENCE IN PAY BAND IS RS 3240.THE DIFFERENCE OF PAY BAND BETWEEN THESE TWO GRADE PAY IS TOO MUCH THEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OTHER GRADE PAY.
anomalies especially in the cadre of LDCs/UDCS. Due to MACP Stagnated UDCS who had completed 24 years after 1-9-2008 reduced their salary already drawn. Due to implementation of MACP a senior most stagnated UDC after 24 years may get only 2800/- grade pay -But in many departments LDC post upgraded and given 2400/- grade pay.They may get 2800/- grade pay after 10 years and 4200/- and 4600/- after 20-30 years. Hence interest of senior UDCs may be protected. At least protect the 2nACP and Salary already drawn after 01-9-2008- or give 4200/- grade pay to all senior UDCS who have completed 20 years of service as on 01-01-2006.
anomalies especially in the cadre of LDCs/UDCS. Due to MACP Stagnated UDCS who had completed 24 years after 1-9-2008 reduced their salary already drawn. Due to implementation of MACP a senior most stagnated UDC after 24 years may get only 2800/- grade pay -But in many departments LDC post upgraded and given 2400/- grade pay.They may get 2800/- grade pay after 10 years and 4200/- and 4600/- after 20-30 years. Hence interest of senior UDCs may be protected. At least protect the 2nACP and Salary already drawn after 01-9-2008- or give 4200/- grade pay to all senior UDCS who have completed 20 years of service as on 01-01-2006.
HOPE THAT COMMITTEE MAY CONSIDER CASES WHERE SALARY REDUCED DUE TO IMPLEMENTATION OF MACP AND SOLUTIONS FIND OUT
anomalies especially in the cadre of LDCs/UDCS. Due to MACP Stagnated UDCS who had completed 24 years after 1-9-2008 reduced their salary already drawn. Due to implementation of MACP a senior most stagnated UDC after 24 years may get only 2800/- grade pay -But in many departments LDC post upgraded and given 2400/- grade pay. They may get 2800/- grade pay after 10 years and 4200/- and 4600/- after 20-30 years. Hence interest of senior UDCs may be protected. At least protect the 2nACP and Salary already drawn after 01-9-2008- or give 4200/- grade pay to all senior UDCS who have completed 20 years of service as on 01-01-2006.
On completion of 12 years approved service, ACP was granted to StenoDs/UDCs of 1995 batch w.e.f 01.07.2008 and fixed their pay at Rs.18,460/- (Rs.13,860/- in pay band and a grade pay of Rs.4,600/-) as the ACP was monetarily equivalent to a promotion. Whereas, on completion of 12 years, 1996 batch Steno-Ds/UDCs were granted MACP and their pay fixed at Rs.12,970/- (Rs.10,170/- in pay band and a grade pay of Rs.2,800) There was a gap of Rs.100/- only in the basic pay between a Grade-D Steno/UDC senior to just one year as per the pre-revised pay scale of Rs.4,000-100-6,000/-. At the same time, after the introduction of MACP, this gap in the basic pay has been widened to Rs.5,490/- . It is very evident from the above the degree of disparity and difference among the similarly placed.
This unjustifiable difference in basic pay is only between Assistants/Grade ‘C’ Stenos promoted or granted ACP between 01.01.2006 – 31.08.2008 and those who were promoted or given MACP on or after 01.09.2008. This is because of the fact that Steno-Ds/UDCs granted ACP between 01.01.2006 – 31.08.2008 got the benefit of the above fixation [both Rs.6,500/- and Rs.7,450/- (pre-revised) at the time of calculating pay in the band]. The above benefit of fixation was denied to those who were given MACP after 01.09.2008. Due to this, they are also denied the entitlement for type III government accommodation and rail journey by 2AC from 01.09.2008 as they are not having the grade pay of Rs.4,200/ for availing the facility. Whereas, those who availed ACP upto 01.09.2008 are enjoying these facilities.
The Modified Assured Career Progression Scheme fails to meet the very purpose and aim behind the financial upgradation to neutralise the monetary loss due to stagnation and hardships faced by the employees. Whenever a policy or a scheme is reviewed or modified, the basic concept/motive behind is for the financial betterment of the employees and certainly not to cause any sort of loss. Even if no additional benefit is granted due to review/modification of a policy, the benefits allowed under the previous policy are at least retained. The financial upgradation under the MACP Scheme should be granted as per the promotional norms, then only it serves the very purpose of `Career Progression’.
As per DOPT OM No.20/49/2009-CS-II (B) dated 22nd June, 2011, a new grade of UDC (NFSG) and Steno-D (NFSG) in CSS and CSSS in the grade pay of Rs.4,200/- in the pay band 2 has been created. This should have been given from 01.01.2006 at least as done in the case of Assistants/PAs to minimize the existing wide gap. The said order itself questions the very existence of 10 year MACP as a new entrant to UDC/Steno-D will get Rs.4,200/- grade pay after completion of just 5 year’s approved service. Whereas, those who were given MACP on or after 01.09.2008, after completion of 10 years, under the MACP, getting a mere Rs.400/- only added to Rs.2,400 grade pay, i.e. Rs.2,800/-. Even after getting a promotion, the huge difference will be there as only a grade pay of Rs.4,600/- will be provided on promotion at present, not the next hierarchical pay scale as given earlier. Whereas Gr. ‘D’ Stenos granted ACP between 01.01.2006 – 31.08.2008 got the benefit of the both Rs.6,500/- and Rs.7,450/- (pre-revised) and the grade pay of Rs.4,600/-.
DOPT should take a serious note of this anomaly and rectify the same at the earliest in the forthcoming Anomaly Committee Meeting on MACP to be held on 27th July, 2012.
According to recent order those emplyees falling increiment betwen between feb-june they are now getting one additional old increment, and after that the toal basic pay taken according the 6th pay fitment table. Again after they are getting one new increment on luly 2006 at the rate of 3%.
But those emplyees increment falling on july 2006 they only got one new increment at the rate of 3%and loosing one additional old increment.
Federation may kindly look this matter seriously.
No clarification regarding the Increments according to their performance during CAT-I Trainees as per Trombay council of Department Of Atomic Energy dt 01-01-2000 those who joined on and after this date can grant few increments according to percentage gained in Training period.Our request to raise this point very strongly in NEXT COMING ANAMOLY MEETING GOING TO CONDUCT ON 27TH JULY 2012 .MORE OVER THESE ORDER WAS SUPPRESSED FROM LAST 10 YEARS.It came in light recently because of RTI Act,our request to respected union people to do justice to employees who joined after 01-01-2000.
I have already commented my problem regarding non-counting of training period before appointment in the 6th Pay commission in 5th National anomaly committee. But no discussion or clarification or words or No suggestions found about my case in 5th national anomaly committee.
This is not my own problem sir. All Postal assistant in dept of posts who joined for regular duty on 11.01.2006 after obtained induction and practical training from 27.09.2005 to 10.01.2006.
Sir in Karnataka Circle the period of training period from 27.09.2005 to 10.01.2006(3 ½ months from date of appointment) is not considering for increment and have given our first increment on 01.07.2007 after 22 months from the date of appointment.
(Date of Appointment: 27.09.2005
Training period: 27.09.2005 to 10.01.2006
Date of Joining: 11.01.2006 (Regular Duty)
Date of 1st Increment in 6th CPC 01.07.2007 (After 22 months from Date of Appointment)
From last 4 years we are trying to get increment with
(1). GOI orders under FR26
(2). G.O.I. DOPT OM No.16-16/89-Estt. (Pay-1) dt.29-3-1993. As for these orders we are eligible to get first annual increment on 01.07.2006
No positive reply received from our accounts officers. First they have given increment but now they order to recovery all arrears and to reduce one increment in our salary and saying that we are not eligible to get first increment on 01.07.2006 as we have not completed 6months.
For all case training period is counting period increment but in our case it’s fully ignored by our audit accounts office. In 6th CPC, there is not entry saying about ignoring of training period for direct recruits and also to consider training period.
Hence we are humbly requesting your kind self to rectify our problem and discuss favorably in next National Anomaly committee and also provide any orders issued in 6th CPC regarding counting/non-counting of training period. If our case discussed favorably, we are all Karnataka postal assistant direct recruits will missing from losing of one increment entire service. We all waiting for your reply sir…………………….
Thanking you Sir
Kotresh HB
Postal Assistant, Davanagere HPO-577001
(For Karnataka PA’s losing one increment)
Example of X and Y (Old increment Rs.275)
X-(Increment fall on July)Old basic was 8550 on 1st January 2006. According to fitment table of 6th pay X was got 21,310 basic and also got one increment on July 2006 @3%.
Y-One year Junior from X(Increment fall on february)Old basic was 8,275 on 1st january 2006. According to fitment table of 6th pay Y was got 20,800 basic and also got one increment on July 2007 @3%.Here Y was loosing one increment on july 2006.
According to recent order(Feb-June Incement issue), Now Y is getting extra one old increment of Rs.275 on January 2006 means total basic come to in old basic 8,550, and fixed according to fitment table of Rs.21,310, means same in X on january 2006. Again Y is getting same new increment on july 2006 @ 3% means same with X.
Difference is only one old increment for Y. Why and what logic behand this(Y people). X is loosing one old increment and loosing his seniorty also. Now Y is same with X basic.
Federation may kindly look this matter seriously and please deeply analyse.
May I point out a serious anomaly happened in our department on adoption of MACP wef 1/9/2008.
In our dept., some of the employees who were seniors and had put in more than 25years of meritorius service and who were denied promotion not because of their fault were downgraded to the grade pay of Rs.2800/-(which is not in the hierarchy of the deptal. post) from the grade of Rs.4200/- which they were enjoying on adoption of 2nd ACP. Thus, they have to suffer a monetary loss of Rs.1400/- at a stretch in the grade pay itself. This is very pathetic. While granting MACP, the hierarchy of the departmental post should be considered and not the random grade pay fixed for all the Central govt.employees. Please take this issue very seriously in the coming discussions in the anomaly committee meeting to be held on July 27 on 'MACP' issue.A favourable outcome is expected.
I have been issued the ACP order and granted 2nd Financial up gradation in the pay scale of Rs. 10000-325-15200 with respect to the 5th Pay Commission vide order no.93/2/2008/PCE-PWD-ADM(I I)/37 dated 11th February 2009. This has been issued after successful completion of 24 years service and the date of effect is 14/9/2008.
The ACP order is issued after completion of 24 years service. MACPS is for those who completed 20 years service. The effective dates, as per my ACP order is 14/9/2008 and 1/9/2008 is the very first day applicable under MACPS. The difference between effective dates in both the cases is hardly 14 days. This shows that MACPS circular has taken care of only 14 days and rest of 1446 days service is not considered at all (24 years - 20years = 4 years x 365 days =1460 days – 14 days = 1446 days ) , i.e. out of 48 months, only less than half month gain against over 47.5 months loss. That works out to heavy financial loss as on today and will count more as the years pass on. This is the major discrepancy or grievances which need to be redressed immediately.
It has been seen that there were many proposals from the staff side in the JCA, NAC and MACP committees meetings, but decisions is not yet taken. What I am asking is only to grant promotional grade pay after completion of 24 years and not after 20 years, maintaining ACPS.
Our constitution upholds Right to equality. But in the case of we junior engineers, though our designation, qualification, nature of work are same; the 6th pay commission created discrepancies among us. The cutoff date of 31-8-2008 has created havoc. There is a loss of almost 8000/- as on today and will count more as the days pass by. It is a black mole on the part of 6th pay commission, the major discrepancy which even after the completion of 4 years could not be regularized.
MACP order was issued on 19-5-2009 and had curtailed the benefits to the employees going back to 31-8-2008.What is this policy? What one will have to do whose ACP falls on 30-9-2008.One has to loose whole charm of life. Is it not the right anomaly which the anomaly committee could have solved long back. We have never seen anomalies to such an extent in earlier Pay Commissions.I wish at least on 27th July meeting the members of the Anomaly Committee give a thought from bottom of their heart. Let them position on the looser side and give a thought to have a proper solution.
From:Deepak Metri
EMail: deepakmetri0@gmail.com
May I point out a serious anomaly happened in our department on adoption of MACP wef 1/9/2008.
In our dept., some of the employees who were seniors and had put in more than 25years of meritorius service and who were denied promotion not because of their fault were downgraded to the grade pay of Rs.2800/-(which is not in the hierarchy of the deptal. post) from the grade of Rs.4200/- which they were enjoying on adoption of 2nd ACP. Thus, they have to suffer a monetary loss of Rs.1400/- at a stretch in the grade pay itself. This is very pathetic. While granting MACP, the hierarchy of the departmental post should be considered and not the random grade pay fixed for all the Central govt.employees. Please take this issue very seriously in the coming discussions in the anomaly committee meeting to be held on July 27 on 'MACP' issue.A favourable outcome is expected.
I am also a victim of MACP anomaly. My grade pay of Rs4200/- granted under ACP Schem after 0-9-2008 reduced to Rs.2800/- and salary reduced.In case ACP was continuing I may get a grade pay Rs.4200/- from 01-11-2008 onwards.Hence DOPT may allow such senior employees to OPT IInd ACP OR MACP WHICH EVER IS BENEFICIAL AND ACP DUE BETWEEN 01-9-2008 TO 31-08-2010. Hence loss suffering by senior UDCs having stagnation may be avoided. please resolve the issue of stagnated employees.
(a) Minimum pay should be the pay defined against grade pays under schedule-II uniformly for all categories including promotees and direct entrants retrospectively w.e.f 01-01-2006.
(b) On MACP grade pay of next higher promotional post should be considered as has been done in the case of ACP. the whole purpose of Assured Career Progression itself is defeated while granting only the next grade pay as the grade pays are not synchronized with posts. There is no logic in granting next higher grade pay which is only a mindless approach.
Another fact is that many PSUs and departments like MICR, CSIR etc have given pay fixation benefit by applying multiplication factor of 1.86 of minimum of the upgraded pre-revised scales instead of pay drawn in the existing scale for each post while adopting the RP rules 2008. Infact they have done a right thing but the central ministries were not allowed to follow this fixation formula by Department of expenditure. This dual criteria has created a huge discrimination among the employees of central ministries and the the employees of PSUs/Departments. A uniform pay fixation formula can only rectify this anomaly.
Varghese
Sir.... It is highly irrational that the difference of entry pay between of 4200 and 4600 grade is un proprtianate .The fixation should be done in proportionate manner.