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Wednesday, April 30, 2014

7th CPC Questionnaire - Draft Reply published by Confederation

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7th CPC Questionnaire - Draft Reply published by Confederation

7th CPC Questionnaire :-

1. Salaries
1.1 The considerations on which the minimum salary in case of the lowest Group ‘C’ functionary and the maximum salary in case of a Secretary level officer may be determined and what should be the reasonable ratio between the two.
Any Commission which considers the question of emoluments for employees/workers should first be inspired by the implication flowing from the amendment to the preamble of our Constitution where-by the words “socialist & secular” were prefixed to the word “Republic”, as also the Directive Principles of State Policy enshrined in Article 43 i.e. the state should endeavour to secure living wage for its employees/workers.

Group C is a skilled worker. MTS is the lowest category of Group C. The 6Ib CPC evolved the MTS by amalgamating some of the unskilled, semi-skilled and skilled functions without any scientific basis or logic. From the standpoint of the stipulation in the recruitment rules, eligibility criteria etc, MTS deserves to be categorized as a skilled worker. In practice, most of the departments have outsourced or contractorised the
unskilled or semi skilled jobs leaving the MTS to cater to the requirements of the skilled functions.

Wage structure in civil service is to be determined on the basis of the computation of the minimum wage; fair comparison of wages elsewhere etc. The living wage, which is a constitutional guarantee, has not been defined. The 15th Indian Labour Conference held in 1957 brought in the concept of “Need Based Minimum wageN on the basis of Dr.Aykhroid formula. The need based minimum wage is required to be provided for an unskilled worker whenever one is employed. The definition underwent minor changes, when the Supreme Court revised the norms later. Presently there are no unskilled regular employees’ cadre in Government of India services. The Commission is required to first determine the need based minimum wage as per the Dr. Aykhroid formula and make necessary adjustment to determine the wages of MTS which is the lowest category in Government of India services. The co-relation of the wages of the skilled and skilled worker at the lowest grade had always been of the order of 130% for the skilled worker. The minimum of the pay of the MTS has therefore to be determined at 130% of the need based minimum wage.

The minimum maximum ratio obtaining in different countries as per information gathered by V CPC was as under:
Malaysia - 1:3
Sweden 1:4USA - 1:4
Britain - 1:6
France - 1:6.6
Indonesia - 1:6.9
Australia - 1:7.7
Thailand - 1:9
Hong Kong - 1:40

However, the earlier Pay Commissions had adopted a ratio of 1:10. Since the minimum wage in the Central Government sector is no more related to an unskilled worker, this ratio must be proportionately changed to 1:9. If one is to take into account the fact that the Pay of Cabinet secretary, being the topmost Civil Servant I, for no valid justification,is excluded by the 6th CPC, the ratio in reality between the minimum and maximum will be more than 1:9. 

Therefore, so far as maximum salary in the case of a Secretary level officer is concerned the reasonable ratio between minimum and maximum salary may be taken as 1:9 and salary of Secretary level officer may be fixed by multiplying the minimum wage by a factor of 9.

1.2 What should be the considerations for determining salary for various levels of functions falling between the highest level and the lowest level functionaries?
Salary for various levels of functions falling between the highest and the lowest level functionaries should be determined by applying the existing vertical and horizontal relativitles which have been evolved over a time through various Pay Commissions. In respect of special functionaries like Professionals and technocrats who normally prefer to work in the Private Sector and therefore either do not offer themselves for Government service or tend to leave it and go over to the Private Sector, Instead of providing them the salary structure of Group A administrative post they may be granted a special Pay package. Similarly unskilled workers engaged in hazardous activities like scavenging, maintenance of rail track, in Laboratories, Hospitals may also be considered for a special treatment.

2. Comparisons
2.1 Should there be any comparison/parity between pay scales and perquisites between Government and the private sector? If so, why? If not, why not?
There should be no comparison/parity between pay scales and perquisites between Government and the private sector for their functions and objectives are incomparable. While the private sector is motivated by the concept of maximization of profit, the requirement of service to public without any favour is the cardinal principle of governance. A civil servant is supposed to possess the qualities of being fearless but appreciative of inherent individual difficulties, non discriminatory between one citizen and the other; sense of equality; adherence to the rules and regulations etc. However a “fair comparison with outside wages” is a principle which has been adopted world over for determination of wages of Civil (Government) servants and therefore
atleast at the level of unskilled work, the average minimum wage obtaining in selected Private/Public sector undertakings is a must, subject to the condition that it should not be less than the Need Based Minimum wage determined and quantified on the basis of norms adopted by the 15 ILC.

So far as perquisites are concerned no comparison with those obtaining in Private sector is possible except in the case of House Rent/Travelling Allowances. Other perquisites in the Private sector have been granted on altogether different considerations.

2.2 Should there at all be any comparison/parity between pay scales and perquisites between Government and the public sector? If so, why? If not, why not?
Yes. For the sake of a fair comparison of wages.

2.3 The concept of variable pay has been introduced in Central Public Sector Enterprises by the Second Pay Revision Committee. In the case of the Government is there merit in introducing a variable component of pay? Can such variable pay be linked to performance?
The concept of performance related pay structure was actually imported by the 6’ CPC through the Pay Band and Grade Pay system. In the absence of an objective measurement criterion to evaluate the performance of individual officials and groups, the innovation was flawed right at the outset. The 6th CPC failed to recognize the fact that in Governmental set up, segmentalisation of functions into tiny units is next to impossible. In order to make the concept workable, the organization must be capable of finalizing clear cut targets both at the individual and group levels. This being difficult in most of the Governmental organizations, it is not desirable either to continue with the existing system or import or replicate what is done in the Public Sector Undertakings. This apart, it is pertinent to point out that most the west Europeancountries, which adopted the Performance pay related scheme in civil service in the hay-days of Thatcher-Reagan era subsequently discarded it as infeasible.

3. Attracting Talent
3.1 Does the present compensation package attract suitable talent in the All India Services & Group A Services? What are your observations and suggestions in this regard?
Generally the pay package in Government service at all levels is at a low level compared to the exorbitant pay packets provided by some of the Transnational Corporation in the private Sector. This has no doubt a deleterious impact on the quality of personnel recruited to Civil service, especially at lower levels. Since the Group A Service officers In Civil Service enjoy enormous power, perks privileges and an incomparable job security it has continued to attract talents. As mentioned elsewhere, while parity with the pay and perquisites with the private sector is neither desirable nor feasible, the Commission must ensure thin at the widening gap in this regard is taken into account as an important factor to be addressed, The element of statutory Pension is one very important and significant factor in attracting persons for Government service.

Therefore, the NPS and PFRDA Act may be scrapped and statutory pension as a service condition may be restored.

3.2 To what extent should government compensation be structured to attract special talent?
Government may be required to requisition the service of personnel with special talents of professionals and technocrats for specific jobs. The Commission may evolve a scheme for the recruitment and retention of such professionals and technocrats with special pay packets and flexible service conditions.

4. Pay Scales
4.1 The 6th Central Pay Commission introduced the system of Pay Bands and Grade Pay as against the system of specific pay scales attached to various posts. What has been the impact of running pay bands post implementation of 6th CPC recommendations?
The Pay Band and Grade Pay system evolved by the 6th CPC in implementation of the concept of performance related pay structure in civil service, as mentioned elsewhere, was a disaster. Having introduced without proper consultation with the stake holders, It did not serve the requisite purpose. The system brought about innumerable anomalies of varied nature, which could not be addressed by the National or Departmental Anomaly committees within the parameters stipulated by the Government. The failure of these committees to address the issues which were appreciated by all concerned as genuine stand testimony of the incorrigible character of the scheme leaving no alternative except to discard it to be replaced by the Pay scale structure.

4.2 Is there any need to bring about any change?
Yes. This has to be changed lock, stock and barrel.
There is a need to revert to Time Scale pattern of wage structure abandoning the Pay Band Grade Pay Structure. The time scale of pay should have a minimum pay and annual increment at the rate mentioned in answer to question No. 5.2 but without any maximum so that it is a running pay scale. This will eliminate the phenomena of stagnation.

4.3 Did the pay bands recommended by the Sixth CPC help in arresting exodus and attract talent towards the Government?
No. Not at all.
The Pay Band & Grade Pay structure has not prevented the highly qualified technocrats and professions to leave the Government in search of better career avenues in public and private sectors.

4.4 Successive Pay Commissions have reduced the number of pay scales by merging one or two pay scales together. Is there a case for the number of pay scalesf pay band to be rationalized and if so in what manner?
It must be noted that the successive Pay commissions had reduced the pay scales only at the Group C and D levels. It has now reached a saturation point. There is no much scope to have further exercise in this direction except where clear overlapping exists. The Commission must however attempt to bring about uniform hierarchical set up at all levels in all departments. The pay scales are to be constructed by a common multiplication factor as was done by the 5 CPC.

4.5 Is the “grade pay” concept working? If not, what are your alternative suggestions?
It is not working and must be replaced with the pay scale structure which was In vogue prior to the implementation of the 6th CPC. The purpose for which it had been devised is not specified by the VI CPC. It also did not serve as a fitment benefit. At best the grade pay can only be termed as an adhoc increase which has been allowed over the existing basic pay and DA as on 1.1.2006.

5. Increment
5.1 Whether the present system of annual increment on 1 July of every year uniformly in case of all employees has served its purpose or not? Whether any changes are required?
No. In fact the single date increment system has brought in anomalies, which were discussed at length at the National Anomaly Committee, without reaching an agreement. In our Opinion, the commission must recommend, for administrative expediency, two specific dates as increment dates. Viz. 1st January and 1st July. Those recruited/appointed/promoted during the period between 1 Jan and  June, will have their increment date on l January and those recruited/appointed/promoted between 1st July and 31st December will have it on 1st July next. This apart the Commission is required to specifically recommend that those who retire on 30th June and 31st December are granted one increment on the last day of their service.

5.2 What should be the reasonable quantum of annual increment?
The reasonable quantum of increment should not be less than 5% of the basic pay or the rate of increment agreed upon through bilateral discussion in the Banking industry, whichever is higher.

5.3 Whether there should be a provision of variable increments at a rate higher than the normal annual increment in case of high achievers? If so, what should be transparent and objective parameters to assess high achievement, which could be uniformly applied across Central Government?
Without defining the term uhigh achiever” and prescribing transparent and objective parameters to assess high achievement the system of variable increments at a rate higher than normal annual increments will be misused on subjective assessment of high achievements. For these reasons and for what we have stated in reply to question No.2.3 the scheme of variable increment is not desirable.

5.4 Under the MACP scheme three financial up-gradations are allowed on completion of 10, 20,30 years of regular service, counted from the direct entry grade. What are the strengths and weaknesses of the scheme? 
Is there a perception that a scheme of this nature, in some Departments, actually incentivizes people who do not wish to take the more arduous route of qualifying departmental examlnations/ or those obtaining professional degrees?
There should be 5 financial upgradation in the departmental promotional hierarchy. MACP is a time bound promotional scheme, The scheme is required to be continued to motivate personnel at all levels and at all departments especially in those organizations, where normal promotional avenues are few and far between. Normal promotions are dependent upon the availability of vacancies at higher levels. The job requirement of certain organizations may not be capable of creating requisite number of higher level positions whereas it might need large number of personnel at lower levels. MACP alone can take care of that specific situation. The arduous route of career progression through examination and professional qualification, no doubt will be preferred if and if only such promotions are made available for the eligible candidates within a reasonable period of residency in the feeder cadre. Say three years.

6. Performance
What kind of incentives would you suggest to recognize and reward good performance?
We are against the system of incentives to reward good performance as this would only encourage favouritism and nepotism for the reasons stated to our reply to question No.2.3 an d 5.2

7. Impact on other organizations
Salary structures in the Central and State Governments are broadly similar. The recommendations of the Pay Commission are likely to lead to similar demands from employees of State Governments, municipal bodies, Panchayati raj institutions & autonomous institutions.

To what extent should their paying capacity be considered in devising a reasonable remuneration package for Central Govt. employees?
Capacity of a Governmental organization to pay cannot be gauged only from the available resources but also its potential to raise resources. Wages cannot be determined on the single factor of capacity of the Government to pay. It must be noted that there are various State Governments in the country which pay better pay packets, perquisites and allowances to its employees than what is provided to the Central Government employees. Panchayati Raj institution, Municipalities, normally follow the salary structure of the respective State Governments. It is also to be noted that various State Governments do revise the wages of their employees once in five years. In any case the incapacity of the government to pay cannot be a justification to deny the minimum wage to workers and the salary structure based upon that concept, especially in the background that the government is to function as a model employer. It also cannot be an excuse for denial of wages on a fair comparison of the wages existing in the society which is evolved as a product of collective bargaining of the workers.

8. Defence Forces
8.1 What should be the considerations for fixing salary In case of Defence personnel and in what manner does the parity with civil services need to be evolved, keeping in view their respective job profiles?
No comments

8.2 In what manner should the concessions and facilities, both in cash and kind, be taken into account for determining salary structure in case of Defence Forces personnel.
No comments

8.3 As per the November 2008 orders of the Ministry of Defence, there are a total of 45 types of allowances for Personnel Below Officer Rank and 39 types of allowances for Officers. Does a case exist for rationalization/ streamlining of the current variety of allowances?
No comments

8.4 What are the options available for addressing the increasing expenditure on defence
pensions?
No comments

8.5 As a measure of special recognition, is there a case to review the present benefits provided
to war widows?
No comments

8.6 As a measure of special recognition, is there a case to review the present benefits provided
to disabled soldiers, commensurate to the nature of their disability?
No comments.

9. Allowances
9.1 Whether the existing allowances need to be retained or rationalized in such a manner as to ensure that salary structure takes care not only of the job profile but the situational factors as well, so that the number of allowances could be at a realistic level?
The existing allowances need to be retained. They are at a realistic level having been evolved by successive Pay Commission over detailed deliberations.

9.2 What should be the principles to determine payment of House Rent Allowance?
The IlIrd CPC had recommended that Government should lay down appropriate HRA rates in different cities and town based not on population criteria, but on an actual assessment of prevailing level of rent in different cities and Towns. Alternatively, certain notional rents for different types of accommodation meant for officers and personnel of specified pay groups should be laid down for particular cities after studying the actual market rent in that city. The house rent allowance will have to be the actual rent payable by an employee in a particular location as reduced by 10% of basic pay being the amount factored in the computation of minimum wage.10. Pension

10.1 The retirement benefits of all Central Government employees appointed on or after 1.1.2004 are covered by the New Pension Scheme (NPS). What has been the experience of the NPS in the last decade?
We are of the considered opinion that the new pension scheme which came into existence for the employees recruited after 1.1.2004 must be scrapped. The old statutory pension scheme as was in vogue prior to 1.1.2004 must be made applicable to all Government employees irrespective of the date of their entry into Government service. The New pension scheme has in fact created a class within class amongst the Central Government employees which is discriminatory and impermissible. It is clearly in contravention of the dictum pronounced by the Constitution Bench of the Supreme Court in Nakara Vs Union of India and therefore deserves to be rescinded. Since this New Pension Scheme has been introduced with effect from 0101.2004, it will come into operation only after 30 years in the year 2034 or so when present new entrants retire and get pension from annuities purchased from 40% of total accumulated pension fund.

10.2 As far as pre-1.1.2004 appointees are concerned, what should be the principles that govern the structure of pension and other retirement benefits?
The concept of modified parity introduced by the 5th CPC as a measure to reduce the financial implication must be replaced with the full parity concept as was made applicable for the personnel retired prior to 1.1.1986. In other words, the pay of every retired person must be re-determined notionally as if he is not retired and then his pension to be computed under the revised rules. This alone will protect the value of
pension of a retired person.

5th CPC in their Para 127,6 has observed, “It needs to be averred emphatically that pension Is not in the nature of alms being doled out to beggars. Senior Citizens (Retired Government employees) need to be treated with dignity & courtesy benefitting their age. Pension is their statutory, inalienable, enforceable right & it has been earned by the sweat of their brow” Hon’ble Supreme Court, in its landmark 5 Judge Constitutional Bench judgement dated 17.12.1982 in the case of D.S. Nakara Vs Union of India ruled - “A Pension scheme consistent with available resources must provide (adequate pension) so that the Pensioner would be able to live

I) free from want, with decency, independence and self respect and
ii) At a standard equivalent at pre-retirement level.Ii) Pensioners from payment of pension form a homogenous class. Different formulae affording unequal treatment cannot be adopted to compute their pension solely on the ground that some retired earlier and some retired later.

A comprehensive scheme of retirement benefit has been suggested by the stake holders both as an agenda in the National Council meeting of JCM and the meetings of SCOVA. The Commission is requested to consider the well thought out scheme formulated in those agenda and make recommendations to the Government, so that the pension and retirement benefits will really become meaningful for the retired employees. We shall elucidate the points in detail when we submit the memorandum to the Commission on
retirement benefits.

11. Strengthening the public governance system
11.1 The 6th CPC recommended upgrading the skills of the Group D employees and placing
them in Group C over a period of time. What has been the experience in this regard?
The then existing Group D employees, to the best of our understanding have all been trained, upgraded or promoted to function as skilled group C employees.

11.2 In what way can Central Government organizations functioning be improved to make them more efficient, accountable and responsible? Please give specific suggestions with respect to:
a) Rationalisation of staff strength and more productive deployment of available staff;
b) Rationalisation of processes and reduction of paper work; and
c) Economy in expenditure.
Whatever rationalization effected so far by the Government had been through an unscientific and arbitrary executive fiat like the one issued in 2001 and which was kept operative till 2009. The said exercise only reduced the staff strength drastically. We arenot aware of any rationalization or reduction in Group A cadres through this exercise even though the executive instruction covered all grades and cadres in the Government service. It in effect made most of the departments of the Govt. of India either non functional or dysfunctional. In our considered opinion, the 7thCPC must recommend to the Government to set up a Committee in each department with experts from outside the organization, the officials from within the organization and representative of the Unions of the respective department to study the functional changes taken place over the years, especially due to the induction of modern technology the new challenges and the best way to meet those challenges’ reduction in paper work, customer satisfaction and economy in expenditure and make suggestions to the Government for their acceptance and implementation in toto.12. Training! building competence To ensure that periodical professional training is imparted to all personnel to update the skills.

12.1 How would you interpret the concept of “competency based framework”?
No comments. 
This in fact is a matter which must be considered by an Administrative Reforms Commission rather than a Pay Commission.

12.2 One of the terms of reference suggests that the Commission recommend appropriate training and capacity building through a competency based framework.
a) Is the present level of training at various stages of a persons career considered adequate? 
Are there gaps that need to be filled, and if so, where?

b) Should it be made compulsory that each civil service officer should in his career span acquire a professional qualification? If so, can the nature of the study, time intervals and the Institution(s) whose qualification are acceptable, all be stipulated?

c) What other indicators can best measure training and capacity building for personnel in your organization? Please suggest ways through which capacity building can be further strengthened?
In our opinion in- service training is the best course for skill development. Outsourcing of Governmental functions per se is undesirable and must be stopped.

13.1 What has been the experience of outsourcing at various levels of Government and is there a case for streamlining it?
The experience has been sheer duplication of work by existing regular employees and deterioration of efficiency in pubic service.

13.2 Is there a clear identification of jobs that can be outsourced?
No. for reasons stated in reply to question No. 13.

14. Regulatory Bodies
No comments.

14.1 Kindly list out the Regulators set up under Acts of Parliament, related to your Ministry! Department. The total number of personnel on rolls (Chairperson and members + support personnel) may be indicated.No comments. The reply has to be given Government Departments.

14.2 Regulators that may not qualify in terms of being set up under Acts of Parliament but perform regulatory functions may also be listed. The scale of pay for Chairperson /Members and other personnel of such bodies may be indicated.
No comments. The reply has to be given Government Departments.

14.3 Across the Government there are a host of Regulatory bodies set up for various purposes. What are your suggestions regarding emoluments structure for Regulatory bodies?
No comments.

15. Payment of Bonus
One of the terms of reference of the 7th Pay Commission is to examine the existing scriemes of payment of bonus. What are your suggestions and observations in this regard.

The 7th CPC must make note of the recommendations of the 5th CPC & Bazle Karim Committee Report which are yet to be acted upon by the Government. The present system of Productivity linked bonus is the product of bilateral agreements and cannot be changed through unilateral decisions. What is needed is that the Government must issue necessary guidelines to enable all departments to enter into such bilateral agreements with their staff unions so that the adhoc bonus system presently in vogue in many departments could be abolished.

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19 comments:

Lakshmanrao seshagiri said...

Valid questions found fairly responded well.Whereas,The commitment to the effect that the entire seventh pay commission recommendations would be from 01.01.2016 is found silent.

Lakshmanrao seshagiri said...

Date of effect from a uniform date for the implementation purposes will have some merit, all round.

Lakshmanrao seshagiri said...

Level of JCM is something about the right forum which can have a fresh agenda included in the present or subsequent meeting.Justification outlined is all about the gap of 10years between two Pay Commission.The change of nomenclature as !!! National Pay commission!!! will have due merit, if uniform date of effect is Recognised.

Anandan RJ said...

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Anandan RJ said...

Para 5.2- Increment- the rate of 3% by 6CPC appeared satisfying at the time of implementation. However,considering the present day inflation, 3% is trivial and does not compensate. Hence, 5% suggested should be on an incremental basis every year taking into account the inflation at that time.

Anandan RJ said...

5.4 - MACP- The worst anomaly of the 6CPC yet to be rectified even after 6 years is rather shameful.
The scheme should be scraped. However, if continued, it should be seen that two employees working in identical posts and same cadre, the junior is not drawing even a rupee more than the senior irrespective of the grades in which they were appointed.

Anonymous said...

at present system on tour food bills required to be submitted which was given very less amount ,resonable amount may be given for food, hotel,local transport.It shold not be asked to submit bills only self certification may be submitted by the employee.

Anonymous said...

Just like 5th CPC, it is require in the 7th CPC that the DA may be automatically merged after reaching to 50% as well as other allowances also be increased accordingly.

BV SRINIVAS said...

dr srinivas bv increment- single and uniform increment on july first has lead to multiply the penalty period. example penalty of one year increment withheld from 15th july 2014 to 14th july 2015 leading to loss of promotion / macp till completion of penalty period actualy ends technically on 30 june 2016. thereby the chances of losing seniority in promotion.

BV SRINIVAS said...

uniform increment date poat pones the penalty period , there by loosing seniority in promotion or juniors will be promoted on account of postponement. example - one year postponement of increament from 15 july 2013. which means technically his penalty period start from 1st july 2014 to 30 th june 2016 . thereby he is actualy lose two years promotion or macp.

BV SRINIVAS said...

performance cannot be uniform and equal in all the branches headed by equal cader on account unfilled vacancy in some branches. normalyy the officer working more in the branch having less staff will get more blame or struggle to complete the targets, thereby his superior will never put higher grade as there is low achievements irrespective of staff strength. all the reviewing officers are not uniform in grading in the system of an organisation . some are liberal and some are stingy in grading.

Anonymous said...

Diffence
Is it justified that Non Combatants are in same pay band with combatants(i.e NCos and SNCOs) in defence.This anomaly is introduced only in 6th CPC.

B.Venumadhavachar said...

medical allowance may please be reviewed and minimum of Rs. 4000/- per month may be given to all pensioner of central govt. As the old age there is necessity of medical treatment is increasing with diffrent kinds of aliments and CGHS facilities are available in only 25 cities.

B.Venumadhavachar said...

medical allowance may please be raised from the present Rs. 300 to 3000 p.m. as the cost of medical expenses are increased over the period and after retirement the medical allowance is not sufficient to meet the expenditure

Abhishek Singh said...

The boundation of minimum 6 months for next increment should be abolished in case of fixation of pay on Promotion.. For eg.. if someone get a promotion in in Feb (Any date, he/she should be given an increment on the date of assumption of promotion and the pay be fixed on that basis.. Further on 1st Jul he / she should be given another increment.. This procedure / formula should be adopted in case of promotions / upgradations / initial appointments etc., so that the employee may not bear loss due to boundation of 6 months gap between two increments.

Abhishek Singh said...

Moreover, in case of promotions on transfer... i.e.. when promotion is given with posting (When the employee will get promotion on joining in new office/station), the increment / financial benefits must be given to the employee from the date of promotion and not from his date of joining.. Reason is that almost in 80-90% cases, department holds the employee for some time/ few months as the department requires services of the employee.. Then why the employee should bear the financial loss? Yes, if the employee himself/ herself requests for delay in joining to new office on promotion, in that case the financial benefits/increment can be given to the employee from the date of his / her joining on promotion in new office.

P R Harsh said...

Under MACP a junior is getting more pay than his senior . It is against fundamental rule. Hence a senior pay must be increased up to equal to his junior.

nitish pandit said...

Rejecting the pay band system,which forced the seniors drawing equal pay with 3-4 years junior employees, the time scale structure should be brought back.

Sameer Rai said...

why firefighter does not put into technical group. even we are do all the technical work and recruit on the basis of fire fighter course



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